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@denvaldron

Well this is all really rather fascinating – reminiscent of your first posts regarding trying to place the two Cushing movies into canon.

I realise it’s not everybody’s thing but purely as an exercise in logic and retcon / storytelling, I’m impressed.

However (@Craig also here), this seems perfect for the blogs, if only so it can be seen all together. Any easy way to transfer?

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Per my (completely ignored, sniff) post on the DotD thread, I wonder if the Doc’s memory loss will be linked in some way to the Silence and their memory wiping abilities? Or possibly the mind worm from Snowmen.

Agree with @Shazzbot that we’ll be out of the Doc’s collapsing timestream faster than you can say Raxacoricofallapatorius (or even Clom). Although @ardaraith‘s rebirth scenario is very very appealing. It’s given added weight, given the potential number of enemies in this ep.

Given the picture, I’d have expected someone to have come up with a Clara / Cracker joke (too obvious probably). In any case, it’s proabably not a standard cracker, more likely a Sontaran fragmentation grenade.

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@wolfweed

KATE (on mobile phone): Malcolm? Malcolm, I need you to send me one of my father’s incident files. Codenamed Cromer. 70s or 80s depending on the dating protocol

It’s these little details that delight the likes of us, without disturbing the narrative, while meaning nothing to those who aren’t in on the joke.

Moffat is possibly the ultimate fanboy, albeit one who can write.

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Anyone else wondering how Moffat is going to play out the Smith Doctor memory loss subplot?

It’s been brewing for some time now, was mentioned in previous eps and now in the 50th but that didn’t seem (to me) to be the end of it.

Perhaps Smith will completely lose his memory in the Christmas ep., find himself in some kind of mortal danger and be unable to regenerate. Maybe Clara helps him. Any other ideas?

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@wolfweed

Nice joke about the UNIT dating by Data Protocols…

Must have missed that. Does it solve the Unit dating conundrum? Details please?

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@denvaldron

the reality is that the pool of English actors really isn’t that vast, and you do see faces coming back

I don’t think there’s a dearth of really good actors in the UK, quite the reverse.

Anyway, DW has many times used previous bit part actors subsequently in major roles in show. Karen Gillan and Peter Capaldi both in Fires of Pompeii, so it’s a tradition now. My guess is that Moffat will explain away the similarity between Capaldi’s Doc and the Roman character at some point. It’s no big issue either way.

I suspect Smith wanted to do the 50th and then move on – the big danger with playing the Doctor is one of typecasting. Eccleston and Tennant seem to be doing OK with their other roles, hopefully Smith can also find something interesting to do in the future.

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@Shazzbot @scaryb @bluesqueakpip @juniperfish @craig @jimthefish @pedant @whisht @danmartinuk @arkleseizure @pufferfish @Airedales etc.

Hope you all have a great time meeting up and I am genuinely sorry to miss it. Looking forward to the post meeting stories and also how your impressions of each other in RL compared to the online perception. Also interested to hear what the reaction of the rest of the pub was.

For the absent among us, including:

@blenkinsopthebrave @fatmaninabox @magnetite @osakahatter @steve-thorp @tardisblue @thommck @timeloop @janetteb @wolfweed @miapatrick @phaseshift @mini-htpbdets + many others – apologies for those I’ve missed.

I am sure we will be raising a glass to @htpbdet at the appropriate time, although mine will likely be a cup of tea given the early hour.

Always a pleasure coming on here and long may it continue. Hopefully the 50th does the show justice and we’ll have plenty of post-50th bonkers theories to keep us going.

See you on the other side guys…

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@Shazzbot @scaryb

 ba-dum-bum—tish! 

Tough crowd. :O

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@scaryb @Shazzbot

Thigh Gap

The 1st wife of a friend of mine had a terrific pair of legs. Her thigh gap was notorious, mainly because she liked filling it with other men.

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@bluesqueakpip

🙂 Now that’s a picture I’d like to see.

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@shazzbot

What about pics of those attending but hidden behind their avatars? Would put one over on The Usual Suspects but you may get some strange looks in the pub.

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@wolfweed

The Perth Mint here in Aus are doing a 1oz silver coin:

http://www.perthmint.com.au/catalogue/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-2013-1oz-silver-proof-coin.aspx

As Silver is around $20 an ounce, that’s quite some markup. It is very tempting though…

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@craig @scaryb

Thanks for my new unpixelated av. and very happy to be present in some form at least.

Of course I do expect the av. to be presented in a gold-leaf regency frame on a velvet backing.

As the evening wears on, Can I also suggest the hi-res version is replaced with the pixelated one, to represent the effects of alcohol. You can also add some drool much later on and then some Zzzzz’s.

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@Shazzbot

Having a bit of trouble with my avatar to send to you (?) / @craig to replace me – in absentia – at the celebrations. It goes all pixely when I try and increase the size…I may have to redraw it myself but goodnss knows what it will look like.

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@Shazzbot

Should be The Asylum of the Whovians surely?

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@craig

I’d be interested to read it myself anyway. I used to read scripts for the likes of Miramax, Newline and the BBC so, if you want, I can give you a few comments too

Thanks very much. Any comments gratefully received. It’s not really even at first draft stage, more of an extended brain dump, so I can get the concept down. I’ve had to put it to one side while I work on another project, so your critique will help me get back onto it. I’ll try and send it to you this weekend.

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@pedant @scaryb

It was a brIef reference in The End of Time where Doc10 says he used it to end the Time War. No other details are mentioned in the show but it has been referenced in other media as some kind of weapon:

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Moment

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9. At this stage, I’m not ruling anything out

(C) WhoHar 2013

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@timeloop

As Elwood P Dowd said in Harvey “An element of conflict in any discussion is a very good thing. It shows everybody’s taking part and nobody’s left out. I like that.”

I don’t necessarily expect agreement with my pov, as it’s just that: my pov. I’m all for seeding a good plot point early on – there’s nothing like rewatching an old ep and then going “Oh, so that’s what that reference meant, how delightful”. I just don’t think “The Moment” is it.

One of the few to like RoA btw.

@blenkinsopthebrave

What I think, rather than what I would necessarily like:

1. Doc Hurt will be between 8 & 9 and possibly post Time War. I don’t think the Time War will be seen in any kind of detail.

2. There will be some BG Docs in there, somehow.

3. I suspect a McGann-Hurt doctor regeneration but perhaps only early on.

4. Something to link back to the first episode (or pre-first episode)

5. Clara isn’t revealed as Susan (or her mother or grandmother etc) in this episode.

6. Possible surprise regen into Capaldi.

7. Lee Harvey Oswald is a Zygon assassin, who, due to problems with the sights on his rifle, kills JFK by mistake instead of his intended Zygon target who is disguised as Jackie. In his haste to escape capture, LHO is disorientated and repeatedly bangs into the walls of the Texas School Book Depository, finally breaking a wall at the 4th attempt.

8. Moffat will pull something out of the hat.

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@blenkinsopthebrave

A fine idea. Struggling to come up with a cohesive, comprehensive theory at the moment. I’ll mull it over.

At this stage, I’m not ruling anything out.

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@timeloop

Watched fan fic trailer on phone, so not the best.

Re: “The Moment” I like it as a name and a notion but I don’t think it will be used, mainly as I don’t think it has enough currency in the current show. I had completely forgotten about it until you mentioned it again and – I presume here – so will most of the fanbase.

Then again, I get a bit switched off by namedropping of events, which I perceive as throwaway dialogue. I’m thinking in particular here of the Tennant speech which mentioned “the Skaro Degradations, the Horde of Travesties, the Nightmare Child, the Could-Have-Been King with his army of Meanwhiles and Never-Weres”. It’s just babbling to my ears.

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Ok @shazzbot thanks.

It needs a bit of fettling first before it’s ready for release into the wild.

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@craig

On @shazzbot ‘s blog one of the comments from @mini-htpbdets was for me to send my “cack-handed (ie not very good [yet]) script” over to them.

Can this be done via this forum? Any file would probably be a pdf. Thanks.

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@timeloop

When I said “no Matt” I really meant “not enough Matt”.

Fair enough though as I may have missed a few things as I was watching on a phone and way past my bedtime.

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@steve-thorp @shazzbot

One word actually: Wankery.

The G is turning into an advertisers whore.

(OK, so that’s more than one word)

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Thanks for the link @shazzbot; already commented and was quite restrained for me. The same can’t be said for @pedant though – his comment made me chuckle. @janetteb – very articulate, especially given you were in a hurry.

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While some of the stories have left me a bit meh, I always enjoyed Matt Smith’s performances. A nice blend of old man in a young man’s body.

And I think The Eleventh Hour is probably the best first post regen adventure for any Doc, with the minor caveat that I have never seen Troughton’s first ep.

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@nick

Yeah 70 mins is an odd run time. Neither full movie length or even double ep length. Strange.

Apparently there is going to be an intro to the movie too so potentially it will be even shorter.

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@timeloop

That’s really very nice for fan-fic.

Lots of Doc9 in there though and no Matt.

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Excellent work @miapatrick. Enjoy.

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@nick @bluesqueakpip

Zygons for 5 minutes seems to me to make sense.

Shapeshifters are always good for misdirection too.

At this stage I’m not ruling anything out.

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@pedant

Luton! Bloomin’ eckerslike!

Have you seen the Red Dwarf ep where Kryton is in need of repair? He’s damaged, so they give him Northern (Yorkshire / Lancashire, can’t remember which) accent.  Now that is Northist.

Then again, lots of planets have a North (it’s the best bit too- that was cut out of the original script)

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@shazzbot

I love that you edited my original post so that it made sense and then gave me the V’s.

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@shazzbot

Ha! They say a picture is worth a thousand words – guess I’ve been told to f ‘ off 500 times then (wouldn’t be the first time)

Excellent.

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@Shazzbot

Top notch work as ever. Thanks.

You Yorkshirewomen certainly know you way around t’interwebs.

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@miapatrick

Wasn’t even drinking- maybe that was the problem.

I have the same issue.

I appreciated why you were making the post, it just took me a while to figure it out. My bad.

How’s the creative writing going? If it’s any help I did an MA in Scriptwriting, so if you need to bounce any ideas off a thick head, please boing away.

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@blenkinsopthebrave

 

Pitiful 🙂 . Actually I was wondering about the Zygons myself. No-one seems to have picked up on that. Would love to see them return but the shapeshifter property means that Moffat can have mucho fun and games at the fans expense. Perhaps Doc 10 will turn out to be a Zygon. Or the Hurt Doc or even Doc 11? If the Zygons are going to be in the 50th, Moffat will have to introduce them to an AG audience. He’s only got 70 mins remember so it will be an interesting plot line. I remember the appalling SFX that accompanied the Loch Ness monster sequence in the original. But it’s still one of my favourite Doc4 stories and I should get the DVD.

 

Hope Canada is treating you right and the smell of maple syrup is not too disconcerting. FWIW, the weather down here has been fifty shades of shite – they never told me it would be like this.

 

Liked your posts On the Sofa btw.

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@craig

My post #19659 needs a bit of editing to stop me looking like an arse. Probably because I used my phone to post and I’m no expert.

One thing though – on the mobile site, the “Reply to” box allows me only a certain number of lines and then it freaks. Not sure why and it’s not a major problem as I tend to write in a notebook app and then cut-and-paste. Maybe add to your to do list? Thanks. WH

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@shazzbot

You do yourself a disservice but you’re absolutely right. So in keeping with that sentiment.

And keeping up our special, congenial, respectful, erudite and delightfully weird corner of t’interwebs is the best tribute we could possibly make to that remarkable man.

Pull yourself together woman and get back to the bonkers theories! 🙂

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@pedant

How Northist! BtW it’s either Up (oop) North or – less commonly – th’North. If your going to use t’internet (TM) at least make sure your phrasing is not out of kilter.

Mumble mumble… skirt twirling southern jessie. moan moan…

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@shazzbot

just read that link you sent and found myself almost replying 🙁 It is extraordinarily personal writing and I feel priveleged to have read it.

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@shazzbot

thanks for the link.

Thanks also for being the intermediary between us and @htpbdet‘s family – it’s a worthy thing you are doing and, I’d imagine, emotionally difficult. It is appreciated. x

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@craig

Multiple posts from badlydrawngirl on multiple threads (I’ve not put the @ on the name deliberately). The link posted is to a Website that claims to have a life size Tardis as a prize but requires only that you fill in Name, email and other personal details. Might just be over-enthusiam on badlydrawgirl’s part but there’s a whiff of trouble about it – you may want to investigate.

Thanks.

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@miapatrick

Just re-read your post #15600 and I’ve got it now. I feel like a bear-with-very-little-brain. Tum-di-dum.

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@mini-htpbdets

Thanks for posting during this time. I have to say, as @scaryb and @blenkinsopthebrave mentioned, there is some specific quotes in-show that work against the theory. Then again, the very title of that ep was The Name of the Doctor and that was read initially one way by most of us on here (@bluesqueakpip excepted) and then differently post episode.

It certainly is a Moffat trait to use word play and obfuscation to throw us all off the scent. If your Uncle’s theory proves to be correct, that must make the Hurt Doctor, Doc Zero.

At this stage I’m not ruling anything out.

@miapatrick Your first post (#19599) made perfect sense to me but then I got confused when reading your subsequent one.

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@Shazzbot

Bit out of the loop with The Fledgling & The McGann boy and the wedding and all that. Can you give me a brief recap or point me to a previous post. Thanks.

I’ve tried looking but can’t find any reference and, tbh, I feel a bit uncomfortable going through certain old posts right now.

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“Ralphing” though. Class.

Ralph and Huey would always be there at the end of a night.

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@shazzbot

I too use DuckDuckGo but 95% of t’internet don’t.

The ads don’t actually bother me that much now as I have developed selective viewing when online so can basically ignore them.

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@Shazzbot

Thanks for sharing that.

I doubt very much that he’d be disappointed in you.

Bloody Americans……. 🙂

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@shazzbot

That is inspiring and humbling all at the same time.

Move the posts by all means (see also my suggestion about the posts on your blog)

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