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Love the music thread – hard to keep up though.

@arbutus – thanks for posting Into the Mystic – any Van the Man is always welcome in my book! (Lovely version, and I particularly liked that the notes on youtube which said it’s apparently the preferred song for surgeons when they’re prepping – didn’t know that).

@purofilion @barnable

Eve of Destruction – great song. Written by PF Sloan when he was about 20 (so not as young as 12, but still pretty young). Dawn of something isn’t ringing any bells – which means I’ll probably kick myself when someone else mentions it 😉

Sadly most places have a rich/poor divide which drives a lot of conflict*.  The 60s had some great music right enough (some abysmal stuff as well tho… and no internet forums 😉 ).  Some good stuff bubbled up in its wake – love this:

G’night all!

 

*Don’t get me started!!

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Re Vastra and Jenny – if Vastra was a male human I think our reactions to her making Jenny pose gratuitously, not to mention hitting on Clara, would be very different!  See above re flawed characters 🙂

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Slapgate – really interesting discussion

I suspect a generational/cultural thing going on. Those of us growing up with eg Laurel and Hardy, Chaplin, 3 Stooges, Tom and Jerry etc were used to a culture of “slapstick” (literally slap and/or a stick) where physical contact (especially weaker on stronger, which is where the slap gets its comic power) was much more common. That would include Moffat, and I think he plays with that culture a lot. eg Matt’s various “she’s a woman!” comments.

I also think @thommck‘s kids’ reaction (which is what kicked the discussion off in here) shouldn’t be ignored (and kudos to him and his parenting skills that they responded that way) – it’s a sign of how far we’ve moved as a collective culture.

I liked @janetteb‘s comment that it worked before to reset the Doctor’s braincells, in Nightmare in Silver, when he asked her to do it. Doesn’t make it right, but it does show how desperately frustrated she is with the Doctor’s inability to see past his prejudice. She also uses basically the same method to restore the Dalek – walloping its cortex units.

I also agree with the comment above that role models in fiction are much more interesting when they’re imperfect.  A perfect, infallible Doctor would be boring.

@phaseshift – top 10 slaps – just brilliant 🙂

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*looks round carefully to see if here are any daleks still lurking*

@miapatrick – your last paragraph is beautifully said, thank you.

@Purofilion – thanks for keeping the nightshift going, as eruditely as ever 🙂

@bluesqueakpip I agree with your masterful (mistressful?!) summing up of this Doctor’s character.  This is the Doctor, as Vastra put it, without the mask. He’s always been like this – you see flashes of it in all the Doctors.  Capaldi’s Doctor just isn’t hiding it – he doesn’t need to be liked.  He does need to know that he’s better than a dalek tho, that he’s driven by something other than pure hatred (the bit the dalek recognises as beauty (in its completeness) – also recognised by the daleks in Asylum). I also liked your analysis of Davros as the most evil creature in the Whoniverse.  Daleks are bred to hate – even when they have an epiphany and see the beauty of life prevailing against all the odds – they cannot do anything with that appreciation other than to find a new target (even their own kind) to exterminate.

Presumably the Doctor is also aware of the failings in TL society which led to the Time Wars and will be very wary of bringing back his people only for the whole cycle to start again. Which it could if a “fault” is bred into the Timelords, rather than their (often reprehensible) behaviour being the result of their education/social system.

A couple of things I picked up on rewatch –

1 dalek on a mission is all you need to ramp up the fear factor. A small squadron equally so.

The Doctor’s intervention only prevented the injured Dalek from being killed by the trion(?) gas, it didn’t change what it wanted to do (destroy the daleks).  Wondering how long it will take the other daleks to notice it’s gone a bit rogue! Presumably the attack unit took a while to compute what was happening, it was so far out of their experience.

@pedant – thanks for your point about Journey’s brother being already dead. I missed the first couple of seconds on my first watch, but he definitely looks like a goner.

Which leads me to Gretchen’s “transportation” to Missy’s world. That looked remarkably similar to Journey’s rescue. Was she picked up in the split second before she died? The antibodies leave no trace so she could have been physically transported.  Could Missy be in a TARDIS? In which case she’s presumably a Timelord. The Rani or the Master? Or someone else completely?  (HFM/Humpty, being a robot, wouldn’t need to be transported at the point of death, as he could presumably be rebuilt/rebooted).

Re Journey being turned down as a companion, it wouldn’t be the first time as others have said, but the Doctor is usually kinder in his refusal. As Eleven said – he doesn’t know “why” but he does know “who” will be a  companion when he meets them. His subconscious recognises who will be good for him/has most need of him at that particular time.

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@craig

*sigh*

I told you not to break anything!

What state did you leave the mountain in…? No doubt there’s big chunks out of that as well!

(Welcome back btw 🙂 (And glad to see it’s not your mouse finger))

@wolfweed – re twisting your ankle – you may not have been a companion yet, but you have all the necessary qualifications. Keep watching the skies.

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@cathannabel

Nice shout out on the “don’t breathe/don’t not breathe”

And @wolfweed and @chickenelly‘s “eyes” motif

Lots to watch out for, including the resurrection of @juniperfish‘s red/blue strands (thanks @phaseshift)… or maybe it’s Reservoir Doctors! (And seconding that wish that we see the finny one back here, fit and heartily bonkering, soon)

@bluesqueakpip Agree with you re “utilitarian ethics”.  Was that not what Day of the Doctor was all about?  But even there, the Doctor(s) would have settled for the option of pressing the button as the least bad of 2 options, had it not been for Clara’s intervention, and insistence that there had to be a 3rd choice.  So – the Doctor is only a good man when tempered by a human conscience, in the form of the  companion/assistant/associate/carer. As explicitly stated in this episode. Otherwise he has the capacity to be as megalomaniac bonkers as any other timelord.

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@wolfweed Very cute.

A case of headscarf envy perhaps?

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@abxy sadly, although the UK (as confirmed in Ofcom’s recent statement regarding the 6 complaints it had received about the kiss) doesn’t officially discriminate against kissers according to gender (or species apparently!) it’s not the case in much of the rest of the world.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-25927595

 

 

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@deadmeat3171

You need to rewatch Name of the Doctor and Time of the Doctor

Briefly – the TARDIS in NotD is clearly Smith’s. Clara also says, with ref to Hurt’s Dr – “But I’ve seen all your faces… all eleven…”

The subject has been discussed at length on this forum – http://www.thedoctorwhoforum.com/forums/topic/s33-7-14-the-name-of-the-doctor/

The question was asked (in the hidden message from the Timelords (What is your name?)) on Trenzalore in TotD (where there is a truth field so no one can speak falsely). It’s also answered – by Clara (he’s called the Doctor – that’s all the name he needs).

 

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@wolfweed 25% audience share is still impressive, and there will be a big jump-up when the timeshifted figs are added.

“Leader of the pudding brains” haha (tho that is a VERY scary photo to expose people to on a Sunday morning!)

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@fatmaninabox Pink/Blue to denote gender. You are absolutely right, it used to be reversed (in 19th century). In fact it was red (and shades of, for boys) and not-red for girls (not-boys).

This is an interesting development of the topic – with a photo of Benjamin Franklin looking very cute and girly (the fashion at the time) –

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/when-did-girls-start-wearing-pink-1370097/?no-ist

 

 

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I’m awestruck at the posts on this thread, you’re all amazing!

I humbly submit this for Into the Dalek – Buffy Saint Marie’s Soldier Blue (which has been running through my head since last night)

(this is a more elegaic video than the ones featuring frankly gruesome, but powerful, images from the film. Gentle for a Sunday morning)

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Oh, and I love the xray effect of Dalek blasters on the victims, I’ve missed that

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Random thoughts –

Why couldn’t/didn’t the TARDIS save Journey’s brother?

Missed ref in mightbesherlock’s list above – The pilot that McGann’s Dr tries to pluck from the jaws of death in Night of the Doctor

@wolfweed Thanks for the link (and no prob re overlapping posts – different timestreams & all that!)

Is Courtney a soul-sister of Melody Pond?

Theme tune – I prefer this to all the post 2005 versions, though it does seem a wee bit muted. But then, I reckon the original can’t be beaten for way out weirdness, so anything else is going to sound second best. This one is getting closer though.

@bluesqueakpip Carlisle? I missed that. 🙁 Where?

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@wolfweed

Did Humpty sacrifice himself?

It’s looking like it, I think. I don’t believe the Doctor pushed him, he’s not changed that much. But like Gretchen, Humpty may have been persuaded to follow his own inclination. Both sacrifices save others.

@miapatrick I agree re a CAL/papal mainframe/matrix type thingy. But how do  they get there? HFM being a robot (mostly) might have been connected to a mainframe. but Gretchen appeared to be human.  (Is Missy River in disguise and excelling herself in trying to get the Doctor’s attention, LOL)

Variation on the Genesis question – if you could “treat” the Daleks’ malevolence/”fault” by administering certain drugs/radiation dose… have you the right to do so?  The Doctor says the change in outlook in the Dalek was only down to a realignment of its synapses caused by the radiation leak… but all thoughts and personality are down to the synapses.  The Daleks are already mutations, their malevolence – as stated in this episode – reinforced by programming.  Why did this Dalek seek help – was it because it knew it shouldn’t be feeling “nice”?

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A much darker Doctor altogether.

One who realises that he can’t save everyone. Journey’s brother (unless he was accidentally sideswiped into Coal Hill School!)

‘He was dead already, I was saving us’

I can’t imagine Smith or Tennant saying that line.

This Doctor actively encourages some people to sacrifice themselves for the greater good.  And these people end up in Missy’s “heaven”.  Hmmm. She still doesn’t strike me as being the benevolent sort.

This Doctor is possibly more realistic, but he’s also the one who knows he didn’t kill all the children on Gallifrey, that he found another way.

But his self-doubt continues. “With great power comes great responsibility”.  Good intentions are not enough. He is shocked when he realises the Dalek has recognised the familiar in his hatred of them to reboot its understanding of the universe. Would the Doctor really “make a good Dalek”?

(@pedant Great to see you back and in excellent form 🙂 )

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@theatreguy Danny Pink as version of dead brother – interesting idea.  I like it!

Pink/Blue names – notice that they’ve reversed the usual gender connotations.

Another thought about Danny – wondering if he’ll follow Clara one day – into the junkyard perhaps – to find out what she’s up to with the old guy and the blue box.  Clara’s reminding me more and more of Barbara as she gets more teacher-ish.

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@deadmeat3171

Clara’s only seen all the regenerations of the Doctor up till 11 (13 when you include Hurt and 10a ).   When she jumped into the timeline, Matt hadn’t been granted extra regenerations and was in the last one of the cycle.

So Capaldi is completely new for her as well as us. That fact alone is enough to unsettle her.

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@bluesqueakpip You’ve redecorated.

I like it!

Also liking @wolfweed‘s Melissa of Crete link.  Now that’s creepy – especially given the rather salacious way she keeps talking about her “boyfriend”

And how did HFM/Humpty get to “Paradise”? If it’s a matrix type simulation (and we’re mostly agreed it doesn’t look real) that suggests consciousness transference… but do robots have consciousness? (Do androids dream of electric sheep…?)

But did she place the ad in the paper and was she the woman in the shop? Whoever placed the ad was setting a trap, surely, whereas the shop woman was helpful.

Hmm… half an hour to think it over.

I liked Deep Breath – thought it did its job of explaining how the show works to recent and new viewers – ie we explain nothing/everythingveryquickly and it’s up to you to keep up and puzzle it out!!  I know it drives some people bonkers, but it’s what I like about Moffat’s writing. I liked RTD’s social realism backgrounds, but I love Moff’s “bigger on the inside” style (the more you look the more you find).

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Oh, loving all the C.laricles speculation.

Sorry to disagree, but I think we’re done with claricles (tho not with Clara). They belong with the last cycle of regenerations (Hartnell to  to Matt) – there to retcon/save the Doctor from any mistakes/sabotage by the Great Intelligence.  Her memory of her mum (as the strongest influence/inspiration she has) follows her thro all her incarnations. My theory is that the claricles appear as fully formed Claras (as the age she was when she jumped into the timeline (as the doctor said – they’re “echoes” ie not real) and home in timeywime-ily on the Doctor’s current crisis.  Just because the claricle died on 2 occasions doesn’t mean she has to die every time she intervenes. Or maybe it does… once each particular crisis is resolved, the claricle “dissolves”.

But, as with my usual track record – I’m probably completely wrong!

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@jimthefish @wolfweed (and any others of the Scottish persuasion/location)

It maybe ranks as a pimple on @craig‘s Snowden scale of intrepid adventuring, but this might be worth exploring for our next DWF (Scottish arm) meetup. It doesn’t involve climbing, and it  includes a pub (and option of other Whovians… ooh! scary!!)

The Whovian Guide to Glasgow

(Love the sunken Dalek mural)

 

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@craig Yikes! 😯 Have fun and don’t break anything!

@fatmaninabox Aw, thanks :00ps: (it’s all part of my cunning plan, hehe 😈 ) Hope the gardening’s going well. How do you get blisters on your feet from gardening btw?!

@phaseshift – ROFL

@rob Congrats and welcome back to the mud.  Hope you didn’t rust too much

Nice that the Rose & Crown is putting on free poison of your choice this afternoon in the run-up to Into the Dalek

Cheers everyone.

 

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Who memorabilia auction inc lots of signed cast doodles, trading cards, photos etc. In aid of Maggie’s Centres. Ends this weekend so get in fast if you want to bag any of these items.

http://one4themoney.wordpress.com/dr-who-charity-auction-bid-here/

 

 

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Re the dinosaur being too big – the fossil record is very far from complete, maybe we just haven’t found those bigger bones yet. (And as @phaseshift suggests there is a “giant monsters” thread running thro fiction,  who knows where that came from).

But seriously – if you accept Silurians under the earth for millions of years, Silence (under the earth for millions of years), cannabilising robots, Jagaroth (likewise), life on earth kickstarted by cyber-ship crash/Jagaroth, the entire universe rebooted thro Amy’s memories etc etc – I really don’t see that a single giant dinosaur is much of a problem!

🙂

 

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@serahni Great post (#30456)

And I love your suggestion the dinosaur could have been a purple Barney – now that would have been really scary 😆

Hope you feel better soon

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@janetteb @okies

He tells Clara he wasn’t talking to her (re the boyfriend) – he says he was talking about himself ie it’s he who was fantasising (creating a fantasy normality where he is liked and accepted) about being her boyfriend.

@steve-thorp (good to see you back) Thanks for bringing up all the chalking on the wall… and the floor… I took it that it was much like his speech, just pouring out all over the place, but he could very well have been working something out, like how to get the dino home. (There was something recently where there were “workings” all over a room, but I can’t remember where – anyone else remember?)

Interesting that in his first task as the Doctor – get the dino back – he fails. Shades of  Ten in the “I’m sorry, so sorry…”?

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@geoffers Re my previous post about Clara  no longer having the ability to save him – this incarnation is beyond her experience  – this one here

@arbutus – you’re re right it happens with children too (I just picked on the old age example and @geoffers picked up on the passage of time re friends). Much as you love and get excited by the young adult now before you, there is always a bit of  longing for the tiny baby who was 100% dependent on you has gone (in a haze of sleep deprivation and lost memories, LOL).

But my point was that it’s usually the Doctor who has to face this ageing process in his sort lifespan friends. This time it’s the other way round.

I don’t buy into the Doctor pushing Humpty (thanks @thommck ) tho – that’s too big step away from what we know him to be. Especially since the Day of the Doctor which was all about establishing the timeline where the Doctor DIDN’T wipe out the 2,000+ children of Gallifrey. And establishing that there is ALWAYS another choice, you just have to look hard enough. (Getting him drunk on whisky so that he fused and staggered out – now that’s another question)

And I certainly don’t trust Missy a fraction of a Gallifreyan nanomite. The hesitation before pronouncing the word “boyfriend” suggests it’s a 1-way view to me,  the apparent delivery of the “promised land” to Humpty – I don’t believe a word of it!  She’s definitely up to something and it doesn’t bode well for our TARDIS team. I do like the Master/Mistress theory – from the name, the promised land/utopia parallel etc)

 

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@geoffers and @serahni

I like your thoughts on Clara. See also my earlier post re her having seen all his pre 11 faces, but not post 11.

It also strikes me that for once (second?)  the situation is reversed (I think I mentioned this in the Time of the Dr thread) – the Doctor is the one who has aged, his companions and friends haven’t.

Love the echoes of ageing in real life – eg you don’t see someone for a long time and when you do they can seem like a different person. An elderly relative can turn into a seeming alien if they have Alzheimers/dementia – manic mood swings, memory loss, jumping into the Thames while inappropriately dressed. How do you deal with that, especially if it is someone to whom you were close?  How do you “see” beyond the changes to find the person you once knew who is still there – possibly very frightened at the changes they recognise are happening to them, but don’t understand – behind the eyes.

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@whisht

I never realised you were quite so devious 😈

@Purofilion Good to see you back too. And I chuckled at your “I don’t like it” comment. (Don’t worry I will no doubt be upright again soon, avatar-wise)

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@wolfweed

That’s (another) new keyboard you owe me!

*splutter*

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Recommendation from Edinburgh Fringe for any vintage Who/Jo Grant fans in London. I saw this production recently and really liked it. It’s not groundbreaking theatre but it’s a tight, funny script, with great performances from Susan Penhaligan and Katy Manning and has a lot of heart. This week, Tues till Sat only (Greenwich Theatre, London)

http://www.greenwichtheatre.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1568:keeping-up-with-the-joans&catid=7:playingnow&Itemid=1

 

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Hi everyone!

*waves and bounces around overenthusiastically!*

Great to see loads of old friends back and posting and lots of newbies as well.  Some great posts, and thanks to everyone who has shown tolerance of other people’s views, even if they disagree with them. Anyone who wants to hurl abuse at individual forum members or individuals on the production team, can f*ck right off.

Right – the episode… I thought it was aces!

I loved the fact that the Doctor is post-regenerative manic, forgetful, unpredictable (will he come back for Clara, did he push/persuade Half face to jump, did he steal the tramp’s jacket…?), very alien… and yet very much the doctor from his first head round the door moment. I liked how he was very different by the end as the regeneration was settling down – much more in control, remembering, yet still vulnerable. The need in all of us to be liked (even if he’s not going to flirt or hug (unless it’s a dinosaur!) to get it).

I could be very picky and say maybe a little bit long, eg the Strax/Clara medical scene was a bit of obvious padding, but I loved being in this world. And as @blenkinsopthebrave and @arbutus and others have wished for – this was a “small” story – no big universe/all of time and space about to explode type plots. A plea for acceptance of the inner “unveiled” selves – to see and value the inner core of people (and lizards), not judge them for their outward appearance.

Clara – looks like she’s been “rebooted” in some ways as well. When she jumped into the Doctor’s timestream to be split into millions of claricles, that was before 11 was granted more regenerations. The claricles can ret-con older stories but these post-eleven regenerations are new territory for her as well. She knows all of the doctor’s faces up to and including 11. But she has no ideas about Capaldi.  Hence the reason she has so much difficulty adapting to him.

I had a theory that the reason for the face was just to remind himself that he had been given a second chance – in Fires… his character was supposed to die but was given another life by the Doctor.  And then @bluesqueakpip mentioned John Frobisher – do Torchwood stories count in the Whoniverse?

Off to finish reading thro everyone’s comments, skimmed thro most before posting – great stuff.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and we’re off again for another series of bonkering*

*copyright @blenkinsopthebrave

 

 

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@craig @wolfweed @blenkinsopthebrave @juniperfish @fatmaninabox @arbutus @pufferfish @timeloop @chickenelly @whisht @arkleseizure and all the forum members, veterans and newbies alike.

Just a flying-in visit to wish everyone a  Happy Who Day

@jimthefish @bluesqueakpip Thanks for missing me! And yes, been doing that cultural overdose thing in Embra. Finishes this weekend – just as well for my liver!

@phaseshift Deep commiserations. I posted a wee thing on the music thread which will hopefully make you smile. (Wee furry things are OK, it’s the big ones you need to watch out for – especially the robotic ones)

Deep Breath everyone – let the bonkers theorising begin!

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@janetteb

Happy Who Day indeed 🙂

I’ll be with you and @Purofilion and other other-side-of-the-worlders, in enforced timeshifting tonight. Despite the fact that BBC are doing an OB of Deep Breath in their Festival tent tonight. But I could only watch the second half of it – how tantalising is that! I may have to wander round with blinkers and earplugs in till I can catch up!

iplayer had better be doing its stuff properly, that’s all I’m saying

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This is especially for @phaseshift

Hope the small furry animals don’t drive you completely bonkers! Pink Floyd would probably sympathise 🙂

 

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@juniperfish!!!!

You’re back!!!

😀

(slithers off the sofa in joy)

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@blenkinsopthebrave

Double Colin… what have you been drinking/imbibing man???!!!!!

That would definitely be a step or a slither too far.  Just NO!!!

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Big hi fives* to @fatmaninabox (aka fatmaninaseedbox 😀 )

Well done you, that’s brilliant. And just the weather for it

 

*oops… that might be a bit difficult, you being just a head n all 😳

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@phaseshift & co

Final arguments from me re Varos: it also has some very contemporary themes – a society dominated and controlled by mass TV output, and dark corporate manipulation of trade and society etc behind the scenes.

And it’s got hunky Martin Jarvis in it, and Shir Shawn’s wee laddie Jason

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PS Tweet done. Let you know if I get a reply 🙂

(Sorry for very brief appearances, am in serious need of a TARDIS… it’s that time of year again)

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@phaseshift

I present my case for Vengeance on Varos – well, I’ll let Sil do it –

 

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I liked this. The location shots look great, and it’s quite pacey. It’s also extremely creepy – definite shades of the Wickerman. The female characters in particular are gradually but steadily disempowered in a quite unnerving way. Good turn from Polly James (she was my favourite Liver Bird) and the rest of the cast.(Not daft on Turlough (my first experience of him) but he’s mostly ignorable! (ouch!))

And yes, that crack does look very familiar!

<Yeti brain blows a fuse at timeywimey implications… expects Clara to appear in part 2!>

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@blenkinsopthebrave – hahahahahaaha – love it (and thanks to @fatmaninabox for fixing the link). (Although I have to fess up – the furry yeti is probably closer to the truth!)

@phaseshift – great post re the BBC report. Much chuckling. They could fund DW for years on the money it makes according to those figs. I should think they’ll be locking SM up with a typewriter and no phone or internet access in case he thinks about jumping ship. For his own protection of course, against the rampaging hordes of ARSE fans!!

Great to see there will be cinema screenings, tho sadly I’ll be timeshifting on 23rd.

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@phaseshift

I’m sticking with Varos but the best I can offer in its favour (apart from a brilliantly slimy and creepy turn from Nabil Shaban as Sil – there’s a good reason Sil is still talked about 30 years on. Oooh, that laugh still gives me shivers)  is that I’ll change my avatar in its honour… which isn’t really much to offer against @blenkinsopthebrave‘s impassioned plea for the Rani

@Purofilion

Ooops! (they probably switched it themselves when you weren’t looking 🙂 )

(And Dr Who with hot choc and Tom Baker scarves sounds pretty cool to me)

 

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@craig

I agree with @juniperfish!

I think you might be surprised 🙂

(Alternatively, you can threaten them with your Ming death ray!)

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I agree with @janetteb, that the comments above have pretty much covered the ground comprehensively.  And yes, you’re right – we are all living in the Doctor-less alt-universe 🙁

Once again RTD has reminded us of the limitations of our own daily existance, it is just submission and eating chips.

I want to move to the other universe!

Bernard Cribbins’  face says so much more than words could.

Series 4 was really quite amazing, and Turn Left completed a stunning run of 4 outstanding stories – Silence in the Lib, Forest of the Dead, Midnight, Turn Left. Great ideas/concepts, beautifully delivered by all involved. And each story is very different, while being identifiably the same series/central character.

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@bluesqueakpip @craig @pufferfish @whisht and all DWF members who can get to London on 7 Aug
TV Preview: Doctor Who: Deep Breath + panel discussion and Q&A with cast and production

The feature-length premiere episode of the new series, starring Peter Capaldi as 12th Doctor.
Thursday 7 August, 6:30 PM, NFT1, BFI Southbank

Now this I would love to go to, but the date’s impossible for me – only consolation will be if someone from the Forum can go and report back (with no spoilers of course!!)  You can apply for up to 2 tickets per person,  before 8.30pm tonight.  Names will then be put into a ballot to chose who gets them!

Enter the ballot here.

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Broadsword @rob

Is the walking still going on? Hope you have a successful weekend and neither melt in the heat or get rusted up in rain!

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Apparently it was exactly 10 years ago today that Mr Eccleston and co went into the BBC studios to start filming Dr Who again for the first time for over 15 years. Oh my giddy aunt  indeed! 10 YEARS!! How’d that happen? 😯

@bluesqueakpip I don’t know if it’s a likely response but another cinema simulcast is a bloody brilliant idea! I know the 50th went a lot better than they’d even dare hope, breaking records all over the place and more than holding its own against big budget mainstream movies.

@jimthefish you’re probably right – there’s sure to be a lot of film co execs wetting their breeks at the thought of those numbers and a fanbase that will happily pay to watch in the cinema when they could see it on TV.  I like the quirkiness of going to the cinema to watch a TV episode tho!

 

[ScaryB @replies]

@phaseshift

Vengeance! With my favourite malevolent alien slug.  And it’s got Sil in it as well! 😈

@bluesqueakpip

We’ll come and rescue you before he starts force-feeding you Season 22!

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